Same problem, they're sending me a new one as well. Ran great the first month, then the issue started. Also went from 44mpg to 35 I called them Monday, supposedly they were shipping one out on Wed.

 

I think that Cobra can and should do more. I am not aware that they are not doing so but they can send bulletins out to their vendors and even to the few individuals that send their warantee information back to them. As I stated earlier, forums are a small population sample of these companies consumers. What are they doing for non-forum members unaware that a version 2 is already available? I am happy that you got your re-designed unit, however, I did not know that yours was acting up also--Keep us posted:bigthumbsup:.

LOL I don't know how you missed it, it was the second post of this thread!

 

I'm hoping the price drops a bit more, but I'm so tempted to just snag one right now!

 

Gonna be a while before that happens. It's too hot right now.

 

other than the bike not performing right... were there any other symptoms that this wasn't working properly? like the light on the power pro flashing or not lit at all? or did it appear to be functioning even though it wasn't? I am new to the 109 and recently installed one... I have noticed no positive performance difference since i installed. Thanks.

 

other than the bike not performing right... were there any other symptoms that this wasn't working properly? like the light one the power pro flashing or not lit at all? or did it appear to be functioning even though it wasn't? I am new to the 109 and recently installed one... I have noticed no positive performance difference since i installed. Thanks.

Chad, how long have you owned your bike? Have you ran it balls to the walls? When mine started acting up, it had a midrange surge and a BIG drop in gas mileage.

 

i have only had it a few weeks... and i have ran it hard prior to doing some mods... i have added cobra pipes, k and n`s with duck covers and the power pro... i took the bike out and ran thru the first 3 gears hard as i had heard people say on the forum here...then cruised for about 50 miles. i was very disappointed with the result.

 

i sent an e mail into cobra about the lack of performance i feel i am getting... i will see if they say its the same problem you guys have described... maybe mine was bad out of the box

 

Chad, just call them.714-692-8180. I sent an e-mail as well and it took them a while to respond. They sent me their #, I called. They have a guy that takes some basic info, then forwards that to the tech dept. He told me I would hear from someone at the latest the next day depending how busy they were. Tech called me back the same day

 

It does make me really wonder why the mother board is so completely redesigned.... there must be a flaw...

and what should i be noticing in overall performance i am not getting... I am coming off a cbr 1000rr onto this monster... but i do feel the bike is no better with the power pro installed....

and thanks in advance to answering my questions bernie and all

 

Not sure if this makes any sense, but maybe you haven't had the bike long enough to be aquainted w/ it's performance. Maybe you're right, maybe your unit is flawed right out the box. All I know is I felt a huge difference after installing it. Ever since buying the bike, I never really felt the "wow" factor in it's performance until installing the PP. Not sure if you saw it, but here is my thread on it after installing it
http://www.m109riders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156644

 

I wonder why they don't just replace all their units with the new motherboard before shipping them out would that not make sense. :dontknow: That is not very good marketing strategy IMHO. Example- You pay us 500.00 for a fuel programer that will probably not work, then you get mad and tell all your friends. Next you contact us and let us know that it does not work and then we will send you a new motherboard that we know will work.

 

Not everyone has had an issue. LIke a lot of things, maybe it was a certain run.

 

Based on reading every post on this issue. I would think Cobra would mod, all there current ones that have not been sold. Or is this A isolated issue, with just some 9ers? I have been really thinking about this unit for my 9, but really do not want to go threw what you guys have!

 

:agree: TORQ I just ordered the 6' cannon on Thurday and I know that I will need a programer from what everyone says on here. But these issues are making me gunshy too order the cobra. The problem is I need to order something soon so that it is here when the pipe arrives :dontknow: need some advice.

 

Bernie... i just read your review... I wish that is what i noticed after i installed it....

i know its installed right... its too easy to mess up and the lights do what they are supposed to do...

Well guess i have to wait to get in touch with cobra to get this straightened out...

 

with how drastically changed that mother board is... something is up with the design

 

Will do bernie... thanks a lot man...

 

You bet bro. They're going to ask you if there is a colored piece of tape around the main harness. Take a look and see so you know before talking to them.

 

i didn't notice a colored piece of tape... i will have to look again... just that nylon braiding around their leads...

 

Yeah, I didn't see one at first iether, it was under part of the frame where I had it mounted. It will be between the unit and where the harness splits for the injectors

 

so i got to pull my tank again? and i will need to make sure the wife is here... i am colorblind... FML

 

Ok so are you guys experiencing a "lean surge?"

 

Yeah, it's kinda like Landlubber said, like the tre wasn't working

 

From what I've read, it's not that it only tunes under WOT, but it tunes when it's under power. Maybe some are interpreting that as meaning WOT. With the way it works the bike has to be accelerating for it to try and tune it, since it looks for an improvement in the injector cycle times.

But this new thing with the tuning pot really just pisses me off. I bought it as an auto tune and paid the money so I wouldn't have to worry about having to tweak the damned thing. Now they say you may need a pot to tune some ranges? I say bullchyt to that. If that's true, mine will go back and my old FI2000R will go back on. The PowerPro runs great on it and has never given me any issues in the 3 months or so it's been on, but now how do I know it's doing as well as it could/should be doing?

Mine runs like it's an electric motor, dead smooth at low speed cruise, mid range cruise, etc. And it accelerates stronger than it ever did with the old unit. So I know I don't have a "bad" unit, but why the heck would they not just replace defective boards instead of redesigning the entire thing if some of them are bad?

I think I'll call them this week and have a little talk with them.

 

But this new thing with the tuning pot really just pisses me off. I bought it as an auto tune and paid the money so I wouldn't have to worry about having to tweak the damned thing. Now they say you may need a pot to tune some ranges? I say bullchyt to that.QUOTE]

Hmmm... been watching this thread since I have 2 9's with PP's. I installed one on my 9 and it is running perfect, although my exhaust is a bit constricted. No surging or rough running at lower constant speeds. Not the best test example but it getting good gas mileage and the power is within limits for me.

On the wife's 9 with a TRE and PC3 I had a tough time getting the dreaded 2750RPM surging out of it. With the PP the surging is still there if not a bit worse now, but the rest of the PP's functions are great. Intake and exhaust are not stock so it flows really good so it sounds like the stock map in the ECM is just too lean and the PP I have on hers is needing a baseline pot to smooth it out... not too happy about that one either Zoom...

Too busy to take care of this right now, going to have to wait until after Sturgis.

Sly

YUp, sounds like you'll be making a phone call to Cobra.

 

Big B and Zoom your guys bikes are two good comparisons. Both have same exhaust but only similar intake. I am assuming Big B's are flowing maybe somewhat better? If this is what the difference is with the bikes that are/aren't having problems it may be useful information:dontknow: can you post up the type filter you run and which type intake please? Maybe altitude is also a major factor at play here, is there a significance difference in altitude between where you guys live and primarily ride?

 

Bernie and I don't live too far apart, just over an hour. Altitude, I'm probably a couple hundred feet higher than him where I live, but a lot of my riding is at close to the same altitude as he is. Not enough difference between the two to matter. Mine works fine from near sea level to over 4,000 feet, I'm sure of that.

My intakes are a pair of Donnie Smith Customs originally made for a HD. I made the backing plates to mount them on my bike. they have about the same K&N filter in them as the Big Air kits do. The filters on mine and on Bernie's can either flow more air freely than the stock intake tubes can flow so neither are restricting the intake at all. We even have similar modifications to the baffles in the exhaust, though I've ran mine with stock baffles and no baffles and the bike still ran the same.

But even if one of us had no intakes I don't think it should matter. The Cobra is supposed to tune for all that. If it's so close that a little additional back pressure in the exhaust or a little less flow on the intake makes a difference then the unit isn't doing what they advertised it to do.

 

Bernie and I don't live too far apart, just over an hour. Altitude, I'm probably a couple hundred feet higher than him where I live, but a lot of my riding is at close to the same altitude as he is. Not enough difference between the two to matter. Mine works fine from near sea level to over 4,000 feet, I'm sure of that.

My intakes are a pair of Donnie Smith Customs originally made for a HD. I made the backing plates to mount them on my bike. they have about the same K&N filter in them as the Big Air kits do. The filters on mine and on Bernie's can either flow more air freely than the stock intake tubes can flow so neither are restricting the intake at all. We even have similar modifications to the baffles in the exhaust, though I've ran mine with stock baffles and no baffles and the bike still ran the same.

But even if one of us had no intakes I don't think it should matter. The Cobra is supposed to tune for all that. If it's so close that a little additional back pressure in the exhaust or a little less flow on the intake makes a difference then the unit isn't doing what they advertised it to do.

:agree: w/ everything that Mike has stated. Like I said, mine ran perfect the first month and then the problem developed. so whatever happened w/ the unit after that, something failed cuz nothing else has changed on the bike. Time will tell once the new unit is installed and I get some seat time. It is an inconvenience, but cobra seems to be on the ball w/ taking care of the issue. Unlike a lot of other companies/manufacturers.

As a I've stated before, I don't know much about this product but I do know that my hand goes in my pocket and comes back out every time that I read one of these. I am not entirely sold on this unit's claims and this type of posts kinds of proves the reasons for my uneasiness. "Why it works different on odd 9's " might be due to the fact that everyone rides their bikes differently, and have different set-ups. Ever since this unit came out the only thing I have read is about how "it feels" and "what I have noticed":nojoke:. Are Dyno sessions so expensive that no one has seem to have done one after the installation of this unit? Or are most going with Cobra's claim that one will never be needed and taking their word for it? Heck, maybe they really don't want anyone to find out that this might give the same performance as cheaper units:dontknow:. I heard once that Sianide Acid was good for the vocal cords--she assured what it felt like and what she noticed... I have not heard or seen her again:joke: .

Adrian, I can fully understand your reluctance, it is a lot of coin to come off of if you have an unsure feeling about a product. However I have no regrets in the money spent. Except for the issue, the bike still runs strong.

As far as having dyno'd, there's a place about 5 miles from me that has one. However, when I had my mustang I spent somewhere around 2-3000$'s on tuning. Every time I made a change, I had to have it retuned. Def not interested in spending anything extra having it dyno'd. Not to mention the chance of the operator fukking up the bike. ( I had the first place that dyno'd my car try to sell me all this unnecessary stuff, I knew he was full of shyt. I found another shop, they confirmed I was right. That's another thing, finding a place that knows what they're doing) There are many units ppl here have bought w/ no issues. If you're running the old FI2000 and you're happy w/ your bikes performance, maybe you should leave it at that. Your choice bro, I hope w/e you decide you're happy.:bigthumbsup:

 

How bad was the surging that everyone was experiencing? Really noticeable?

 

If you have a tre, it's like it was before having one. Yes, it's noticable

 

I run between sea level and 2500 feet and my bike runs perfect and pulls hard, Idles perfect and doesn't surge at any RPM....Prolly installed about the same time as Big B, The higher the RPM the smoother it runs...my fuel light always came on at 130 miles now 150 to 155 of combined riding....I run the V and H 2 into 1's , ATRE and installing a intake system next week...I'm very happy with the product and don't care how it functions internally, its the end result that I'm thrilled with.....When I added the exhaust system after the Cobra power pro I immediately felt how easy the bike took off, the bike runs so effortless now not to mention the huge gains in power and smoothness of the over all running...I'm excited about installing the intakes....

 

No complaints here. The PP exceeded my expectations. I have stock exhaust and K&Ns.

 

One thing I haven't seen anyone mention. When I had the old FI2000R and would ride 2up I could feel the loss of pull due to the extra weight. With the PowerPro I can't even tell they're back there.

 

can't compare on the different systems but long hills with a passenger I just twist a slight bit before I had to give it some gas.. maybe a quarter turn...hills meaning 3500 to 4200 ft above sea level...:bigthumbsup:

Never ride 2 up so i can't comment on that aspect.

No TRE, just the PP.

OK, you ever experience a slight miss in 1st 2nd or 3rd going slow at just off idle throttle? Common problem on these bikes. It feels like that. Installing a tre cures that.

 

can't compare on the different systems but long hills with a passenger I just twist a slight bit before I had to give it some gas.. maybe a quarter turn...hills meaning 3500 to 4200 ft above sea level...:bigthumbsup:

 

What is TRE?

 

Timing retard eliminator. You should buy one

http://www.trackdayelectronics.com/gear_emulator.php

 

Cobra was useless. The guy couldnt tell me anything other than some bike are having the issue. Not much of a vote of confidence from the guy.

 

Did you talk to some shmoe that answered the phone or some one in the tech department.

 

Someone in the tech dept.